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Subject: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:20 pm
RottenTomatoes Tomatometer: 9% Average Rating: 3.4/10 Critics Consensus:Dull and downbeat, this Fantastic Four proves a woefully misguided attempt to translate a classic comic series without the humor, joy, or colorful thrills that made it great.
Metacritic Metascore: 27
They were coming, but now they're actually in and the first review is positive!
Hollywood reporter review: http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/entry/view/id/987581
Uh-oh.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:33 pm
Here's the digital spy review: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/review/a661751/fantastic-four-review-dark-and-gritty-does-not-suit-this-marvel-muddle.html
Looks like this will end up in the 40's - 50's with a 6/10 average at best.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:39 pm
Is anyone surprised, though?
And Todd is right, btw. The fanboys will still watch it, the same way they'd pay to watch a movie that's a complete joke and then rant about how bad it is, only to watch the sequels as well.
I stand firm and correct.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:40 pm
RamboOnRedBull wrote:
Is anyone surprised, though?
And Todd is right, btw. The fanboys will still watch it, the same way they'd pay to watch a movie that's a complete joke and then rant about how bad it is, only to watch the sequels as well.
I stand firm and correct.
I'm not surprised, but just severely disappointed.
Also here's TheWrap's review: http://www.thewrap.com/fantastic-four-review-marvel-mcu-michael-b-jordan-kate-mara-miles-teller/
Critics are ripping this thing apart.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:45 pm
yonny616 wrote:
RamboOnRedBull wrote:
Is anyone surprised, though?
And Todd is right, btw. The fanboys will still watch it, the same way they'd pay to watch a movie that's a complete joke and then rant about how bad it is, only to watch the sequels as well.
I stand firm and correct.
I'm not surprised, but just severely disappointed.
Also here's TheWrap's review: http://www.thewrap.com/fantastic-four-review-marvel-mcu-michael-b-jordan-kate-mara-miles-teller/
Critics are ripping this thing apart.
The complaints seem to be the same from review-to-review. Formulaic, standard storytelling with not much of merit to it.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:51 pm
RamboOnRedBull wrote:
yonny616 wrote:
RamboOnRedBull wrote:
Is anyone surprised, though?
And Todd is right, btw. The fanboys will still watch it, the same way they'd pay to watch a movie that's a complete joke and then rant about how bad it is, only to watch the sequels as well.
I stand firm and correct.
I'm not surprised, but just severely disappointed.
Also here's TheWrap's review: http://www.thewrap.com/fantastic-four-review-marvel-mcu-michael-b-jordan-kate-mara-miles-teller/
Critics are ripping this thing apart.
The complaints seem to be the same from review-to-review. Formulaic, standard storytelling with not much of merit to it.
Damn. I would have loved to see this film prove everyone wrong, but oh well.
And damn! 20% on RT!
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:55 pm
A 32 on Metacritic.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:04 pm
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:13 pm
Mecha wrote:
I doubt it happens. Marvel and Fox hate each other along with Fox isn't broke like Sony. I mean, they won the market share last year after all.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:32 pm
@yonny616 This is a completely different situation than Sony's. After the hellish production that the film has gone through, bad reviews, and possible box-office bomb, Fox is only killing the Fantastic Four brand. Hell, the Fantastic Four comics were cancelled after all. Sure they can always reboot it again, but Fox now put themselves into a deep hole that doesn't look like they'll come out of it any time soon.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:41 pm
Mecha wrote:
@yonny616 This is a completely different situation than Sony's. After the hellish production that the film has gone through, bad reviews, and possible box-office bomb, Fox is only killing the Fantastic Four brand. Hell, the Fantastic Four comics were cancelled after all. Sure they can always reboot it again, but Fox now put themselves into a deep hole that doesn't look like they come out of it any time soon.
Exactly. Sony honestly had no other choice because they are literally at the bottom of the barrel. Fox tried to purchase Warner Bros. earlier this year, they ain't Sony. Rumored hellish production. So far a 6/10 average rating is fine. If it goes down then it's bad. All you're saying is the same thing people said when X-Men Origins: Wolverine was released. "Oh they're killing the X-Men brand", "oh they won't be able to dig themselves out of this shit hole" and then what happens? First Class hits it. I think Fox is only looking to make at best 500 million world wide with a higher critic rating than the Tim Story films and they'll more than likely continue it with another director.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:58 pm
@yonny616 X-Men is different because they went back to what made the franchise so successful in the first place. Where as Fantastic Four never had any luck with Fox in control, so there was nothing to go back to accept from the last three bad films. Also I doubt it's going to make $500 million at the box-office. As for the rating, it currently has a 20% score on RT in just a couple of hours. Yet you're still looking at this positively? lol! Not even The Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Man of Steel started out THAT bad.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:13 pm
Mecha wrote:
@yonny616 X-Men is different because they went back to what made the franchise so successful in the first place. Where as Fantastic Four never had any luck with Fox in control, so there was nothing to go back to accept from the last three bad films. Also I doubt it's going to make $500 million at the box-office. As for the rating, it currently has a 20% score on RT in just a couple of hours. Yet you're still looking at this positively? lol! Not even The Amazing Spider-Man 2 or Man of Steel started out THAT bad.
You do know that the first F4 film was successful financially right? Along with the film tracking better than Ant-Man. Never said it was either, just that that's its more likely positive/optimistic outcome box office wise. The rating problem, 20% with a 6/10 currently. Want to know something? Man of Steel has 6.2/10 along with a few Marvel films. As for the percentage, fun fact: Chronicle started out around the same percentage F4 currently has, look where it ended up when the dust settled.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:31 pm
@yonny616 What are you talking about? I never said the first Fantastic Four wasn't successful at the box-office. The reboot may be tracking better than Ant-Man, but that doesn't mean it will have stronger legs with all the bad buzz behind it. Also I don't even think it's likely that it's going to make $500 million at the box-office. People still have a bad taste in their mouths from the previous movies and this one is no exception. Hell, even Ant-Man is having trouble making at least $500 million, and that film has strong legs. Oh and what makes you think the 6/10 score isn't going to lower down? You're comparing it to other superhero movies that got the same score as if they started at that rating.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:16 pm
Mecha wrote:
@yonny616 What are you talking about? I never said the first Fantastic Four wasn't successful at the box-office. The reboot may be tracking better than Ant-Man, but that doesn't mean it will have stronger legs with all the bad buzz behind it. Also I don't even think it's likely that it's going to make $500 million at the box-office. People still have a bad taste in their mouths from the previous movies and this one is no exception. Hell, even Ant-Man is having trouble making at least $500 million, and that film has strong legs. Oh and what makes you think the 6/10 score isn't going to lower down? You're comparing it to other superhero movies that got the same score as if they started at that rating.
The what the hell was all that "X-Men success, F4 never had any luck" talk about? Says who? Ant-Man had production troubles as well. It was all gloom and doom for it. Never said it will make 500 million, just that that is the most optimistic outcome. The film supposedly has a similar budget as Ant-Man, it'll likely get a sequel with $400 million. Okay, and? "Strong legs". It was almost beaten by Pixels in its second week.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:24 pm
EDIT: Never mind. That review was just a reposted review from THR. Lazy asses over at yahoo.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:30 pm
yonny616 wrote:
Mecha wrote:
@yonny616 What are you talking about? I never said the first Fantastic Four wasn't successful at the box-office. The reboot may be tracking better than Ant-Man, but that doesn't mean it will have stronger legs with all the bad buzz behind it. Also I don't even think it's likely that it's going to make $500 million at the box-office. People still have a bad taste in their mouths from the previous movies and this one is no exception. Hell, even Ant-Man is having trouble making at least $500 million, and that film has strong legs. Oh and what makes you think the 6/10 score isn't going to lower down? You're comparing it to other superhero movies that got the same score as if they started at that rating.
The what the hell was all that "X-Men success, F4 never had any luck" talk about? Says who? Ant-Man had production troubles as well. It was all gloom and doom for it. Never said it will make 500 million, just that that is the most optimistic outcome. The film supposedly has a similar budget as Ant-Man, it'll likely get a sequel with $400 million. Okay, and? "Strong legs". It was almost beaten by Pixels in its second week.
I was talking about the quality of the films, not box-office success. Difference is, Ant-Man is made by a trusted brand and got good reviews. I still wouldn't get my hopes up on it making $500 million at the box-office though. Yeah, ALMOST. It's still on the top 5 for like, what, three weeks?
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:36 pm
Mecha wrote:
yonny616 wrote:
Mecha wrote:
@yonny616 What are you talking about? I never said the first Fantastic Four wasn't successful at the box-office. The reboot may be tracking better than Ant-Man, but that doesn't mean it will have stronger legs with all the bad buzz behind it. Also I don't even think it's likely that it's going to make $500 million at the box-office. People still have a bad taste in their mouths from the previous movies and this one is no exception. Hell, even Ant-Man is having trouble making at least $500 million, and that film has strong legs. Oh and what makes you think the 6/10 score isn't going to lower down? You're comparing it to other superhero movies that got the same score as if they started at that rating.
The what the hell was all that "X-Men success, F4 never had any luck" talk about? Says who? Ant-Man had production troubles as well. It was all gloom and doom for it. Never said it will make 500 million, just that that is the most optimistic outcome. The film supposedly has a similar budget as Ant-Man, it'll likely get a sequel with $400 million. Okay, and? "Strong legs". It was almost beaten by Pixels in its second week.
I was talking about the quality of the films, not box-office success. Difference is, Ant-Man is made by a trusted brand and got good reviews. I still wouldn't get my hopes up on it making $500 million at the box-office though. Yeah, ALMOST. It's still on the top 5 for like, what, third week?
Studios don't give one fuck about critic ratings unless they're coming from arthouse/indie studios like Fox Searchlight, Focus Features, etc. Yes, and it still fell short opening weekend, droped almost 60% the follwing weekend and only made 12 million this past weekend. Blockbusters staying the top 5 for at least a month isn't uncommon.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:58 pm
@yonny616 Doesn't change the fact that Fox have yet to make a good Fantastic Four movie. Ant-Man's production problems have nothing to do with how much it made at the box-office.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:16 pm
Mecha wrote:
@yonny616 Doesn't change the fact that Fox have yet to make a good Fantastic Four movie. Ant-Man's production problems have nothing to do with how much it made at the box-office.
Doesn't change the fact studios don't care if it isn't a critic darling as long as it makes that cash. And neither will Fantastic Four's.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:18 pm
@yonny616 Then why didn't they make a Fantastic Four 3?
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:25 pm
Mecha wrote:
@yonny616 Then why didn't they make a Fantastic Four 3?
Because the second made less than the first.
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Subject: Re: Reviews For FANTASTIC FOUR Are In Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:28 pm