Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy

My main problem is the voice, everytime I heard that retarded ass voice I began to take the scene as serious as an Adam west batman scene. DI'd no one think to stop and say "hey bale listen, you sound like a complete fucking joke" and don't give me that "he needs to mask his voice" bullshit, he can mask his voice without sounding like he's sucked so much dick that tried semen has completely crusted up his throat. All they had to do was make his voice similar to Bruce Greenwood or Kevin Conroy. Batmans voice is supposed to be natural, Bruce Waynes voice is the masked one, as Bruce Wayne is all a farce.

Another problem is the costume, he looks completely fucking stupid.
I really feel having a grey and black colour scheme like in the comics would have worked better than the movie version, also the cowl should mask his eyes as well, the stupid costume combined with the retarded voice and dopey facial expression with his mouth open all the time really hampered the experience.

There's nothing wrong with the voice, you know why? Because Batman has NO definitive voice! Did the comic book panel start talking to you tahmidk? The voice is to mask his secret identity even further and to help intimidate. I would say Bale would get carried away with it at times, thats when Nolan should have told him to dial it down a bit. Batman Begins is the perfect example on how he should have done it throught the series. Also in Batman: TAS Kevin used two different voices for Bruce and Batman, even if it was a subtle change.

No it wouldn't work, Batman is a dark character that disappears into the night. The black color scheme makes sense for Batman to move in the shadows ninja-like. The masking of his eyes wouldn't work either. Same reason why Bane didn't have his eyes covered in none of the mask prototypes or final design. The eyes are important to show emotion, especially when your whole face is covered. Why do you think Cap always takes his mask off? And Tony at times too, when he talk. Also the mouth isn't always open.

These aren't problems with The Dark Knight Trilogy, this is your elitist/purist side showing.

Fuck off yonny and get fucked in the bum behind the bike shed.

He needs eyes to show emotion? THE ONLY FUCKING EMOTION BATMAN NEEDS IS HIS RAGE AND ANGER AGAISNT CRIME.AND HIS VENGEANCE!!!

Also your saying batman has no definitive voice? Pretty much everyone agrees Kevin Conroy is the definitive batman voice. Even then im pretty sure when people pictures batmans voice they didn't imagine him having extreme throat cancer. Why do you think his voice is so ridiculed? He can mask his voice without sounding like a complete retard like in batman year one or other batman cartoons like batman tas. He looks completely fucking stupid and retarded, but then again with great lines like "my mother told me not to get into cars with strange men" "(throat cancer) THIS ISNT A CAR"

You Bale fanboys really are the worst..




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His voice was pretty bad. I love how he spends millions on his suit and his gadgets and vehicles and whatnot, but can't fork over money for a voice changer. Sometimes his voice is downright comical. I was really into The Dark Knight Rises's final act until he said, "WHERE'S THE TRIGGER?!" at which point my friend and I burst out laughing. Also kinda funny how he uses the voice even when talking to people who know he's Bruce Wayne.

LOL I don't go that way, but if you brought it up do you enjoy that, Tahmidk?

Yes he needs the eyeholes in the mask to show emotion. How is he going to show that emotion with out his eye? This isn't a animated film/TV cartoon/comic. This is a live action film, the thing that'll cover his eyes doesn't move, taking away the emotion that eyes can show. His eyes covered would be stupid.

Kevin Conroy has the best Batman voice, but it isn't definitive Batman voice because everyone has their own version of a Batman voice. How do you know what voice people imagined for Batman? Like I said the voice can get over the top at times, which is when Nolan should have told Bale to dial it back with the growl. In Batman Begins, Bale does the voice perfectly. Yet they still have subtle change in voice between Bruce and Batman when it came to TAS or any cartoons. Throat cancer? Guess death metal growling is them having throat cancer.

You comic book elitist are so annoying. "Zomgz he is defending Bale, ughh Bale Fanboy!" or Nolanite.

Also if you're going to rant, then please use the right section next time.

Even when people already know who he is, he puts on that voice.

yonny616 wrote:

LOL I don't go that way, but if you brought it up do you enjoy that, Tahmidk?

Yes he needs the eyeholes in the mask to show emotion. How is he going to show that emotion with out his eye? This isn't a animated film/TV cartoon/comic. This is a live action film, the thing that'll cover his eyes doesn't move, taking away the emotion that eyes can show. His eyes covered would be stupid.

Kevin Conroy has the best Batman voice, but it isn't definitive Batman voice because everyone has their own version of a Batman voice. How do you know what voice people imagined for Batman? Like I said the voice can get over the top at times, which is when Nolan should have told Bale to dial it back with the growl. In Batman Begins, Bale does the voice perfectly. Yet they still have subtle change in voice between Bruce and Batman when it came to TAS or any cartoons. Throat cancer? Guess death metal growling is them having throat cancer.

You comic book elitist are so annoying. "Zomgz he is defending Bale, ughh Bale Fanboy!" or Nolanite.

Also if you're going to rant, then please use the right section next time.

Oh fuck off and quit trying to act like a high class prostitute, thats exactly what people said about Bane's mouth, he doesn't need the fucking eyes he could use his mouth to show off the emotion of rage and anger for vengeance and justice. Yes everyone has their own voice for Batman, but at what point, whenever did it indicate Batman would sound like he had crusted up semen clogging his throat up? i'm pretty sure no one when reading batman though "oh the jokers gas probably gave him throat cancer". You're acting as if it was so amazing, but the film was corny as fuck, some of the lines sound like it came out straight from Arrow on CW.

The only reason people would complain about Bane's mouth being covered is that it was somewhat difficult. So what happens when Batman's sad? Does he put on a frowny face? or when he's surprised about something does he open his mouth and gasp in shock? Eye's are needed, whether you can accept that or not. Are you mad that Superman doesn't have his curl? Or his trunk aren't over his tights? Or not having a "S" emblem on the cape?

Like I said, the voice helps him get full into Batman. It's used as a tool to intimidate and helps to cover his secret identity. Sure when the growl gets too heavy it's can be a bit ridiculous. We don't know what voice people used to read the comics, maybe some out there did give him a growl.

And we all know how bad the show Arrow is. If it's corny it's corny, it can't be a comic book movie/show without some of the cornyness showing itself.

Tenaciously arguing about the voice of Batman in a movie.

FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS BROSKIS.

His voice makes me cringe, he sounds like a dying cow.

Zeratul wrote:

His voice makes me cringe, he sounds like a dying cow.

Zeratul you have just exposed yourself of knowing very little of Batman, and you're clearly not a fan. This is how some people imagine Batman's voice when reading the comcics and that's why they chose to use it

Tahmidk, you just exposed how pathetic you are by try to imitate me. Also whether you like the voice or not has nothing to do with being a fan of the character. Now please, learn where the rant section is and don't forget to add "My" to the title.

Comic elitists always seem to forget there are different interpretations of a character, even in comic books themselves.

So just because there are many interpretations of Batman, we can't criticise how bad his voice is?

That's like saying we can't criticise Darksied in Smallville because there many interpretations of the character.

Mecha wrote:

So just because there are many interpretations of Batman, we can't criticise how bad his voice is?

That's like saying we can't criticise Darksied in Smallville because there many interpretations of the character.

You can't criticize Halle Berry's Catwoman since there are many interpretations of the character.

yonny616 wrote:

Tahmidk, you just exposed how pathetic you are by try to imitate me. Also whether you like the voice or not has nothing to do with being a fan of the character. Now please, learn where the rant section is and don't forget to add "My" to the title.

Comic elitists always seem to forget there are different interpretations of a character, even in comic books themselves.

Oh shit sorry, thanks for the information babe i guess because there are so many different interpretations of galactus, that gaseous galactus in Fantastic Four was good and that i can't have reasonable criticisms for it.

Never said you have to like the interpretations. :content:

yonny616 wrote:

Never said you have to like the interpretations. :content:

But wouldn't that make us a comic book elitist.

Lol you're only a comic elitist when you can't accept that film makers can create there own interpretation of a character and want a comic book copy & pasted into film, because that's much more exciting than a original story for the character.

Yonny's logic:

>stahp hating on my opinion
>ur opinion sux

@yonny616

lolwut? Just because filmmakers can create their own interpretation of a comic book character doesn't mean it always turns out perfect. The same goes for comic book writters as well. When I criticize a comic book movie it's because the filmmakers make unnecessary changes that fail improve the original story. Not because I want a copy and pasted panel by panel comic book movie.

For example, the X-Men films try way too hard to be grounded by wearing the black leather suits instead of the classic yellow and blue spandex from the comics. Most of you non-comic readers might say, well who cares? Well let me tell you something, the reason why the X-Men wear the yellow and blue costumes is so that they can be recognized as superheroes like The Avengers and Fantastic Four. But when they wear the black leather suits, of course humans are going to be afraid of them lol.

Same goes for Deadpool, he wears a costume to hide his scars. He's the equivalent of Darth Vader. Without Vader's suit, you get Hayden Christensen.

Mecha wrote:

Without Vader's suit, you get Hayden Christensen.

*shudder*

Mecha wrote:

@yonny616

lolwut? Just because filmmakers can create their own interpretation of a comic book character doesn't mean it always turns out perfect. The same goes for comic book writters as well. When I criticize a comic book movie it's because the filmmakers make unnecessary changes that fail improve the original story. Not because I want a copy and pasted panel by panel comic book movie.

For example, the X-Men films try way too hard to be grounded by wearing the black leather suits instead of the classic yellow and blue spandex from the comics. Most of you non-comic readers might say, well who cares? Well let me tell you something, the reason why the X-Men wear the yellow and blue costumes is so that they can be recognized as superheroes like The Avengers and Fantastic Four. But when they wear the black leather suits, of course humans are going to be afraid of them lol.

Same goes for Deadpool, he wears a costume to hide his scars. He's the equivalent of Darth Vader. Without Vader's suit, you get Hayden Christensen.

Beautiful... :ultracry:

You took the words from my filth riddled mind and created what can only be described as
"yonny got owned so bad he turned into Kendo"

@TRF How am I saying that?

@Mecha Never said there all successes. Look at the shumacher Batman films. I can respect Burton's & Shumacher's interpretation of his Batman films, doesn't mean I have to like it. Plus I don't see you as a comic book elitist Mecha. I see you as a Marvelite. Bitch and moan that they supposedly changed Ra's and Bane to irish and english, but when Mandarin isn't Chinese or Electro isn't Caucasian it's okay, because you know Marvel sticks to source.

@Tahmidk I haven't insulted anyone, not you or mecha. While me and Mecha seem to be able to have friendly debates, you resort to insults. :truestory:

@yonny616

I said it before and I'll say it again, Electro's origin has NOTHING to do with race. Ra's al Ghul, Bane, and The Mandarin however, do. You can not explain these character's origins without mentioning their backgrounds, it's impossible. It's like making an origin story of The Black Panther without bringing up Africa. Even Tom Hardy is fully aware that Bane is Hispanic.

I don't mind if these characters are played by white actors, but you can't just ignore these character's ethnicity. Which is probably one of the reasons why Nolan didn't bother telling Ra's al Ghul's and Bane's origins in the films.

As for The Mandarin, I'm waiting to see Iron Man 3 before I can give my full opinion. It's weird because you can tell that The Mandarin is still Chinese in the film, only the actor playing him is not Chinese. Yes, The Mandarin's mother was English, but a non-comic book reader wouldn't know that. They would be very confused. Even if you pick up a comic, The Mandarin will still come off as Chinese as fuck.