DEATH BATTLE - Goku V.S Superman

Unless you can understand Japanese, there was nothing there to suggest he becomes a god there.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2013/02/20/super-saiyan-god-form-teased-for-battle-of-gods/

Oh, well why didn't you post that before? lol but it's still possible that that's only a name and that he doesn't become a god. Though I'd love to see the movie. And again, since ki is so obviously magic, Goku wouldn't even need to go SS1 to beat Superman, much less a fifth SS level.

Depends on your definition of "god". All we know is, Son Goku will have a new transformation in the film.

Lol Is he getting a new hairstyle? Also will he have eye-liner like SSJ4 or no eyebrows like SSJ3? Also, Akira Toriyama was mad that Goku lost to Superman so he made a Super Sayain God form

Also Ki/Chi/Qi is not magic, Jack. -__-

Until the film comes out we won't know what they mean by "god" or how much strain this will do to his body like SSJ3 or how crazy he gets from power like SSJ4. And also if he still has limits or not, since we all know Superman has no limits.

Did you even see the new trailer? Anyway SS4 is non-canon, so Super Saiyan God form can be a lot more powerful for all we know.

Also Superman having no limits doesn't mean shit. He can lose just like any other superhero.

Yeah, I seen it and it looks awesome. SSj4 may not be canon to manga fans, but it was still overseen by Toriyama himself and he even accepts the SSj4 form.

Saying having no limits means shit is pretty stupid. Also yeah, it's called giving the hero a struggle, something hugely important to a heroes tale. and I realize there are stronger characters than Superman.

We already told you MILLIONS of times that Akira Toriyama has absolutely nothing to do with with SS4. Akira Toriyama himself ignores GT ever happen with Dragon Ball Online and the new film coming out. If you can't accept that then you are in complete denial.

lolwut? I meant the character isn't as invincible as you make him out to be.

Don't tell me, tell GT's post-credits. He designed the main cast, drew rough designs of the logo, and drew some other stuff as well. He has positive feelings about the form, also it's the only of the three anime series to have few inconsistencies.

I never said he was invincible, just that he practically has no limits. What fun would it be to read a story where a hero doesn't struggle to beat his enemy and can do no wrong?

Oh so just because he only did a few designs, that makes GT canon?

Also no. Dragon Ball GT is the most inconsistent out of them all.

Claims to have no limits, yet wants the hero to struggle? :jackie:

Superman has no limits and struggles get the fuck over it.
E.g. Kryptonite, humans and humanity, corruption, idealism
Superman has physical struggles but the majority is a philosophical struggle.

Man, you guys are STILL arguing about this? Ugh. Is it really that big a deal?

@Mecha

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GT was not originally produced as manga like its predecessors, Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and contains minor, rarely seen elements which are inconsistent with Dragon Ball Z. However, GT has the fewest inconsistencies of all three anime series, making it difficult to cite the few that exist as a reason for the series to be set aside as non-canon.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_GT

I think I'll take their word over yours. He didn't just do designs, he oversaw the series. He did do little for it. Imagine if comic fans were like manga fans! "Dat supermaz iznt canonz cuz it waznt made by Shuster/Seigal." But:


@Tahmidk Thank you.

@Chobo It seems it's pretty huge for Mecha since he revived the thread and a made a thread towards me.

yonny616 wrote:

Also Ki/Chi/Qi is not magic, Jack. -__-

As Bill Shakespeare said, "A rose by any other name would still be a fucking rose." Or something like that. Call it magic, call it ki, call it whatever. It's a spiritual force, thus making it supernatural. Unless Superman is only vulnerable to the WORD "magic" or something. Ki may not be the same type of supernatural force as something Babidi used in the series, but that doesn't mean it's not magic.

@yonny616

But here's the problem with your retarded logic, Akira Toriyama was way more involved with Dragon Ball Online and Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, yet both contradict Dragon Ball GT. You're saying you take their word, yet you don't want acknowledge that Akira Toriyama is indeed in FACT way more involved with Dragon Ball Online and the uncoming film, and ignoring GT.

We told you this several times, yet you continue to act stupid.

@Mecha No, I've always said he did little for DBGT, but even then he oversaw the series. Also I never denied he was more involved with DBO or DBZ: Battle of Gods. You're just making shit up, to try and make me look stupid.

@Jack But in the DBZ universe Ki is never established as magic. Also Ki (a DBZ concept of Qi/Chi) is energy from the body. Being balance like Yin/Yang.

Are you stupid? What part am I even making up? Dragon Ball GT is non-canon, simple as that. Yet you keep bringing up how involved Akira Toriyama was with the show. Even though he was WAY more involved with Dragon Ball Online and Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods. They all can't be canon because they contradict each other. So it would make much more sense to choose which project Akira Toriyama was more involved in, correct?

Don't even say you never said Dragon Ball Online and Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods was non-canon either. Seriously, your lack of common sense is giving me cancer.

Just lock this stupid topic

yonny616 wrote:

@Jack But in the DBZ universe Ki is never established as magic. Also Ki (a DBZ concept of Qi/Chi) is energy from the body. Being balance like Yin/Yang.

Like I said, it doesn't matter what they call it. It's a supernatural energy derived from the fighter's spirit. It's not of the normal physical plane. Qi/Chi and Yin/Yang are also magic. Refer back to the Shakespeare quote I butchered (improved).

Ki aint magic bruh

But tell me WHY it's not magic. What about it ISN'T spiritual or supernatural?

Apparently colorful massive amounts of energy coming out of your finger tips is not magic.

ki is the life force and energy within someone, it's just natural energy, not magc=ic

@Mecha When I said your "making shit up" is because your twisting my words like a dumbass. I've always said he had little involvement in DBGT when it came to drawing and writing, but he is still credited as author and he DID oversee the series. Also I NEVER dismissed the fact that he has had way more involvement with DBO and DBZ: Battle of Gods. Well then that's how fucked up DBZ's universe is, don't blame me for their inconsistencies, blame Toriyama since he can't make a cohesive universe, since he oversees every DB project in some capacity.

Well isn't DBO a rpg, doesn't it have choices leading into a bunch of what if stories since every player will be different? Aren't the "what if" stories, the ones that are considered non-canon. Also I never said DBZ: Battle of Gods was non-canon. If I did, prove it to me.

@Jack What tahmidk said. Also it's been differentiated in the DBUniverse (Ki vs Magic).

tahmidk wrote:

ki is the life force and energy within someone, it's just natural energy, not magc=ic

Life force? That's not natural. It's more than natural. Perhaps even . . . supernatural.

And I don't care if DBZ distinguishes it. Just 'cuz ki is not the same magic as what they call "magic" doesn't mean it's not magic.