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Orion Final Boss, 5th Form
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:08 pm | |
| Doesn't matter, this is their own interpretation of Batman, and easily by far the best Batman movies. | |
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Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:14 pm | |
| ^^ Says the guy who bitches about Superman for not being like the comics. | |
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Orion Final Boss, 5th Form
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:20 pm | |
| Well because Superman is disliked by the general audience, someone has to stand up for him. | |
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Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:25 pm | |
| Stop confusing me as Yonny. I never said Superman was disliked by the general audience. | |
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Orion Final Boss, 5th Form
Stature : 298 UK Playing : Persona
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:26 pm | |
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yonny616 Post-Game Enemy
Stature : 187 Earth Playing : The Last of Us. Watching : The Flash.
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:53 pm | |
| How is Batman out of character? Because he got tricked into a trap? Yeah like that's never happened in the comics or animated series. Also it's pretty obvious that you guys seem to cancel everything out until Batman's on screen. Alfred tells Bruce that he's not the same Batman that he used to be 8 years ago, that he can't put on the suit and bam. When Batman goes to fight Bane in the sewers he wants to die, that's why Bruce asks him why didn't he just kill him, and Bane responds by telling him he embraces and doesn't fear death. Is he out of character because his Rachel dies? In TDKReturns he's gone for 10 years and it's because a robin dies! | |
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Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:10 pm | |
| Yes, Batman has fell into traps many times before. But it doesn't work in The Dark Knight Rises, because why the fuck would you trust some bitch who tired to steal from you in the first place? Batman doesn't even trust Superman, let alone Catwoman. You mean to tell me the world's greatest detective honestly didn't see that coming? It doesn't take a genius to know that you shouldn't trust a professional cat burglar at all.
Also fuck Rachel! Bruce was going to give up being Batman over some bitch that has never been in the comics before. Besides, Bruce was going to retire as Batman whether she was dead or alive anyway. | |
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yonny616 Post-Game Enemy
Stature : 187 Earth Playing : The Last of Us. Watching : The Flash.
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:35 pm | |
| Batman saw good in her! Same reason why he keeps giving her chances throught the movie. She was running from Bane, so he thought she could help him get to Bane. Batman manages to get into traps on his own. In a JL elpisode when All those Supervillains are in the chemical plant and Batman brings back up. That was still a trap from grodd to get all the heroes there. So I guess Batman is stupid on his own. So? If Bruce found happiness he would always leave the mantle behind. In Mask of the phantasm he was never going to be Batman and get married until she broke up with him. Not to mention in TDKRises Alfred says that he stop putting on the cowl, but never managed to make a normal life and that Bruce is just waiting for shit to hit the fan so he can be Batman again. | |
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Jack the Spectre Post-Game Enemy
Stature : 309 New York Playing : With myself
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:01 pm | |
| >mid-2013 >still arguing about The Dark Knight Rises | |
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RamboOnRedBull Final Boss, 5th Form
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:02 pm | |
| >18 Years of age >Still watches Smurfs | |
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Jack the Spectre Post-Game Enemy
Stature : 309 New York Playing : With myself
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:17 pm | |
| >was 16 at the time >watched it once >hated movie >doesn't like show either >Rambo grasping at straws | |
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Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:19 pm | |
| @Yonny616
Difference is he wasn't stupid enough to let some criminal lead him to a trap in Justice League, That's the point. Even when Batman was captured in that episode, Batman was still in control that whole time. While in The Dark Knight Rises, he wasn't even prepared in case anything happened. So by trusting Catwoman, he put the whole city at risk. It's out of character and you know it, so quit acting dumb.
I have no problem with Bruce finding happiness, but it was handled kinda sloppy in The Dark Knight Rises. Because why bother becoming Batman at all if Rachel was already there for him? Not to mention, he still gave up being Batman even after Rachel's death. You would think that he would continue crime-fighting even after Rachel's death, but nope. He would rather lock himself inside his mansion, because he's too depress after losing the love of his life. Yep, that SO Batman. | |
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Chobo The Judge
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:20 pm | |
| I didn't find TDKR, or the Dark Knight Trilogy in General, to be that good. Their fine movies on their own, but just really bad Batman movies. Whenever I saw him on screen, I didn't see Batman. I just saw some guy dressing up as Batman. When I see The Burton Batman movies, I see Batman. Another problem I have is the Constant telling the audience what is going on instead of showing. The Joker though was pretty good. | |
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RamboOnRedBull Final Boss, 5th Form
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:22 pm | |
| >Defends himself >Still paid to watch it >Says Rambo is "Grasping for straws" >Shrute being butthurt confirmed | |
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Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:25 pm | |
| - Chobo wrote:
- I didn't find TDKR, or the Dark Knight Trilogy in General, to be that good. Their fine movies on their own, but just really bad Batman movies. Whenever I saw him on screen, I didn't see Batman. I just saw some guy dressing up as Batman. When I see The Burton Batman movies, I see Batman. Another problem I have is the Constant telling the audience what is going on instead of showing. The Joker though was pretty good.
You're slowing becoming into one of us MUHAHAHA! >:-) | |
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RamboOnRedBull Final Boss, 5th Form
Stature : 414
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:28 pm | |
| Tim Burton's Original Batman movie is nowhere near Nolan's The Dark Knight.
Butthurt attack incoming in...3...2...1..-- | |
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Chobo The Judge
Stature : 88
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:30 pm | |
| The Burton Movies were OK. I'm just saying the had the best Live-Action Batman. It's the Animated stuff like Batman: Mask of the Phantasm that are the best Batman anything ever. | |
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Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:32 pm | |
| Tim Burton's Batman may not be as good as Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight (the first two anyway), but Michael Keaton played a better Batman than Bale. | |
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Jack the Spectre Post-Game Enemy
Stature : 309 New York Playing : With myself
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:37 pm | |
| Yeah, Keaton was a better Batman. Bale was a better Bruce Wayne. I don't know who the hell told Bale his emphysema voice was okay. | |
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Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:45 pm | |
| I don't blame Bale for not being a perfect Batman. That's mostly the director and and writers fault. Bale could have have been the best Batman ever too. | |
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Orion Final Boss, 5th Form
Stature : 298 UK Playing : Persona
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:59 pm | |
| Bane and Batman's voice were fucking hilarious, every time they spoke the tense atmosphere would get rekt | |
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yonny616 Post-Game Enemy
Stature : 187 Earth Playing : The Last of Us. Watching : The Flash.
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:02 pm | |
| @Mecha Yeah, he was stupid enough to himself fall into a trap along with the rest of JL. How was he in control? Everyone was getting their asses kicked and they broke up! Yeah totally in control.
He didn't get with Rachel right away because Gotham NEEDED Batman, that's why in BB and TDK he talks about being with her when Gotham doesn't need Batman anymore. Yeah, he didn't stop being Batman because Rachel died, he stopped having a normal life. He stopped being Batman because of the Dent act, and the fact he was branded a killer, and they had to uphold the lie.
@Chobo How was Keaton a better Batman? Because he was a mute? Because he had the fantasy elements? The only thing Burton's Batman got right was his toys and comical Joker. Batman drops a bomb at the feet of some thugs causing a factory, that most likely has civies working, blow up. Not to mention gets his ass handed to him by some thug, then kills him. Also don't get me started on his abysmal Bruce Wayne or the fact Alfred let Vickie Vale into the Batcave.
@Rambo They're talking from nostalgia.
@Jack Bale originally did a deep voice, like in Begins, it wasn't until the other two where in post-production they made it like that. | |
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Orion Final Boss, 5th Form
Stature : 298 UK Playing : Persona
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:16 pm | |
| Bale's voice was shit and he was a faggot Batman compared to Keaton, get over it kid. | |
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yonny616 Post-Game Enemy
Stature : 187 Earth Playing : The Last of Us. Watching : The Flash.
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:26 pm | |
| Please elaborate. I agree the growl can get out of hand, but doesn't a COMIC(S) say he talks in a hoarse, grating, growl voice.
Bale Batman > Keaton Batman | |
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Orion Final Boss, 5th Form
Stature : 298 UK Playing : Persona
| Subject: Re: Problems with Dark Knight Trilogy Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:40 pm | |
| nope comics never said that, and Keaton was just a better Batman.in every conceivable way, you obviously don't know anything about Batman. | |
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