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Subject: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:36 pm
I don't game on PC, but I sorta agree with this article. I know a lot of PC gamers would also. http://gamingirresponsibly.com/are-console-ports-killing-pc-gaming
BioDemon Graphics Mudokon
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:31 pm
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:01 pm
BioRevenant wrote:
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Call of Duty says hi.
The_Biotic_God Boss Spawn
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:38 pm
Mecha wrote:
BioRevenant wrote:
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Call of Duty says hi.
Console gaming doesn't directly bring down PC gaming. Developers do that. COD4 was the best COD game on PC and that was on consoles too you know?
BioDemon Graphics Mudokon
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:42 pm
Mecha wrote:
BioRevenant wrote:
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Call of Duty says hi.
What about CoD? Most CoD titles have Dedicated servers on the PC, not to mention the graphical difference.
Mecha Certified IGN Reposter
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:45 pm
Phyuck Yiu wrote:
Mecha wrote:
BioRevenant wrote:
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Call of Duty says hi.
Console gaming doesn't directly bring down PC gaming. Developers do that. COD4 was the best COD game on PC and that was on consoles too you know?
Yeah, but "Call of Duty" games are starting to be superior on Xbox 360. I know "Call of Duty" was once superior on PC. I knew about "Call of Duty" since last-gen.
TheJubJub5721 Boss Spawn
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:01 pm
Mecha wrote:
Phyuck Yiu wrote:
Mecha wrote:
BioRevenant wrote:
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Call of Duty says hi.
Console gaming doesn't directly bring down PC gaming. Developers do that. COD4 was the best COD game on PC and that was on consoles too you know?
Yeah, but "Call of Duty" games are starting to be superior on Xbox 360. I know "Call of Duty" was once superior on PC. I knew about "Call of Duty" since last-gen.
But is Call of Duty aimed more for Consoles or PC? Yeah...
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:47 pm
nope. PC Gaming is still going strong and is still the platform of choice for gamers.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:57 pm
It is "dieing" but it's not dead. It's not really the consoles fault, they are just more secure and are where the moneys at. I'd say the fault goes to the pirates, especially the ones who crack even nonrestrictive DRM. Like Batman Arkham Asylum. So even then DRM "done right" fails.
BioDemon Graphics Mudokon
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:49 am
BlackStigma wrote:
It is "dieing" but it's not dead. It's not really the consoles fault, they are just more secure and are where the moneys at. I'd say the fault goes to the pirates, especially the ones who crack even nonrestrictive DRM. Like Batman Arkham Asylum. So even then DRM "done right" fails.
Steam has millions of people online at any given time, and that number grows more and more each day/month/year, I think it's far from dead. If steam released their sales numbers I'm sure everyone would stfu about PC gaming "dieing".
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:58 am
Its not dead yet. There is still alot of games being release exclusive to PC.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:49 am
Mecha wrote:
Phyuck Yiu wrote:
Mecha wrote:
BioRevenant wrote:
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Call of Duty says hi.
Console gaming doesn't directly bring down PC gaming. Developers do that. COD4 was the best COD game on PC and that was on consoles too you know?
Yeah, but "Call of Duty" games are starting to be superior on Xbox 360. I know "Call of Duty" was once superior on PC. I knew about "Call of Duty" since last-gen.
Yea my ass. A timed exclusive mappack doesn't make COD better on 360. MW2 was the only terrible PC port in the CoD series. Besides even if it was better on 360 I don't see how CONSOLE gaming is DIRECTLY ruining PC gaming. It's up to the developer's to take advantage of each platform. This "consoles are ruining PC gaming" excuse is almost as bad as the "360 is holding back PS3" bullshit.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:08 am
Phyuck Yiu wrote:
Mecha wrote:
Phyuck Yiu wrote:
Mecha wrote:
BioRevenant wrote:
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Call of Duty says hi.
Console gaming doesn't directly bring down PC gaming. Developers do that. COD4 was the best COD game on PC and that was on consoles too you know?
Yeah, but "Call of Duty" games are starting to be superior on Xbox 360. I know "Call of Duty" was once superior on PC. I knew about "Call of Duty" since last-gen.
Yea my ass. A timed exclusive mappack doesn't make COD better on 360. MW2 was the only terrible PC port in the CoD series. Besides even if it was better on 360 I don't see how CONSOLE gaming is DIRECTLY ruining PC gaming. It's up to the developer's to take advantage of each platform. This "consoles are ruining PC gaming" excuse is almost as bad as the "360 is holding back PS3" bullshit.
I never said consoles are ruining PC gaming. You see how you always put words in my mouth? My point was that not every game is superior on PC. Also "Call of Duty: Black Ops" had more technical problems on PC than the Xbox 360 version.
BioDemon Graphics Mudokon
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:56 am
Mecha wrote:
Phyuck Yiu wrote:
Mecha wrote:
Phyuck Yiu wrote:
Mecha wrote:
BioRevenant wrote:
Ehh, don't really agree. PC gaming is just in a different category vs Console gaming, PC games may be getting dumbed down for console compatibility and the console audience but the PC versions are still superior, doesn't really bother me that much.
Call of Duty says hi.
Console gaming doesn't directly bring down PC gaming. Developers do that. COD4 was the best COD game on PC and that was on consoles too you know?
Yeah, but "Call of Duty" games are starting to be superior on Xbox 360. I know "Call of Duty" was once superior on PC. I knew about "Call of Duty" since last-gen.
Yea my ass. A timed exclusive mappack doesn't make COD better on 360. MW2 was the only terrible PC port in the CoD series. Besides even if it was better on 360 I don't see how CONSOLE gaming is DIRECTLY ruining PC gaming. It's up to the developer's to take advantage of each platform. This "consoles are ruining PC gaming" excuse is almost as bad as the "360 is holding back PS3" bullshit.
I never said consoles are ruining PC gaming. You see how you always put words in my mouth? My point was that not every game is superior on PC. Also "Call of Duty: Black Ops" had more technical problems on PC than the Xbox 360 version.
Call Of Duty: Black Ops has dedicated servers on the PC, 99% of multiplatform titles are superior on a decent gaming PC, period.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:12 am
ArcanaOfB3ast wrote:
Its not dead yet. There is still alot of games being release exclusive to PC.
I don't know if you can still say that. A lot of the PC's exclusive franchises are moving to consoles. Look at Crysis 2 and Witcher 2. With the exception of RTS, it's only logical for a developer to release on consoles when there is a combined install base of approx 100 million.
Stoney Final Boss
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:45 am
BioRevenant wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
It is "dieing" but it's not dead. It's not really the consoles fault, they are just more secure and are where the moneys at. I'd say the fault goes to the pirates, especially the ones who crack even nonrestrictive DRM. Like Batman Arkham Asylum. So even then DRM "done right" fails.
Steam has millions of people online at any given time, and that number grows more and more each day/month/year, I think it's far from dead. If steam released their sales numbers I'm sure everyone would stfu about PC gaming "dieing".
It's far from dead, but piracy is a big problem. Somewhere in this video, Brendan McNamara mentions why they didn't release L.A Noire on PC along side the consoles, because of piracy. If you have time to watch it, can't remember where exactly in the video he states it.
And yes, I know L.A Noire is coming out for PC later this year, ironic.
Also, Sonji and JubJub are pirates, no offence.
BioDemon Graphics Mudokon
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:46 am
ghost23 wrote:
ArcanaOfB3ast wrote:
Its not dead yet. There is still alot of games being release exclusive to PC.
I don't know if you can still say that. A lot of the PC's exclusive franchises are moving to consoles. Look at Crysis 2 and Witcher 2. With the exception of RTS, it's only logical for a developer to release on consoles when there is a combined install base of approx 100 million.
I'm sorry for posting this Pyro vid, but it is an exclusive list, and it's accurate (for the most part)
He doesn't even show ALL of the PC exclusives either.
ghost23 Sub-Boss
Stature : 11 Australia
Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:14 am
BioRevenant wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
ArcanaOfB3ast wrote:
Its not dead yet. There is still alot of games being release exclusive to PC.
I don't know if you can still say that. A lot of the PC's exclusive franchises are moving to consoles. Look at Crysis 2 and Witcher 2. With the exception of RTS, it's only logical for a developer to release on consoles when there is a combined install base of approx 100 million.
I'm sorry for posting this Pyro vid, but it is an exclusive list, and it's accurate (for the most part)
He doesn't even show ALL of the PC exclusives either.
I'll be completely honest with you, the majority of the non-RTS games for the PC list I've never heard of.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:20 am
^ They are still games but yeah they could just be loads of shovelware :S
BioDemon Graphics Mudokon
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:23 am
ghost23 wrote:
BioRevenant wrote:
ghost23 wrote:
ArcanaOfB3ast wrote:
Its not dead yet. There is still alot of games being release exclusive to PC.
I don't know if you can still say that. A lot of the PC's exclusive franchises are moving to consoles. Look at Crysis 2 and Witcher 2. With the exception of RTS, it's only logical for a developer to release on consoles when there is a combined install base of approx 100 million.
I'm sorry for posting this Pyro vid, but it is an exclusive list, and it's accurate (for the most part)
He doesn't even show ALL of the PC exclusives either.
I'll be completely honest with you, the majority of the non-RTS games for the PC list I've never heard of.
Let me be completely honest with you, half the games on that Ps3 list I had never heard of, just because they aren't popular doesn't mean they are automatically bad. I have personally researched almost every game on the PC list and most of them look like quality titles. Popularity =/= Quality.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:40 pm
Stoney wrote:
Also, Sonji and JubJub are pirates, no offence.
Hahaha I'll admit, I pirate some. But if a game is good, I will usually buy it after. That's what I did with quite a few Wii games and a few PC games, like Amnesia.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:16 pm
BlackStigma wrote:
It is "dieing" but it's not dead. It's not really the consoles fault, they are just more secure and are where the moneys at. I'd say the fault goes to the pirates, especially the ones who crack even nonrestrictive DRM. Like Batman Arkham Asylum. So even then DRM "done right" fails.
This.
Its ridiculous how much pirating goes on on PC. PC gaming is primarily dying because of pirating. WHy should a dev waste their time and money making games on a platform that just refuses to pay for it....PC gamers have this sense of entitlement that just disgusts me.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:24 pm
I blame Sonji.
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:27 pm
Mecha wrote:
I blame Sonji.
Fuck you
BioDemon Graphics Mudokon
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Subject: Re: Are Console Ports Killing PC Gaming? Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:29 pm
Reaper wrote:
BlackStigma wrote:
It is "dieing" but it's not dead. It's not really the consoles fault, they are just more secure and are where the moneys at. I'd say the fault goes to the pirates, especially the ones who crack even nonrestrictive DRM. Like Batman Arkham Asylum. So even then DRM "done right" fails.
This.
Its ridiculous how much pirating goes on on PC. PC gaming is primarily dying because of pirating. WHy should a dev waste their time and money making games on a platform that just refuses to pay for it....PC gamers have this sense of entitlement that just disgusts me.
A lot of them don't..... A lot of PC gamers buy their games. Like I said previously there are millions of PC gamers on Steam that buy their games legitimately, not to mention devs get a bigger cut of the profit when using steam vs selling xbox/PS games at walmart or w/e.