BATMAN V SUPERMAN - Official Trailer 2

Mecha wrote:

It's not so much the spoilers themselves, but rather how you see things play out. Yes, we already knew Doomsday and Wonder Woman were going to be in the film, so don't bother. Because that's not really the point. Besides, it's not just the spoilers. The trailer was tonely uneven and lost it's focus on the tension between Batman and Superman.

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Mecha wrote:

Ah fuck it! I'm being in denial here. The trailer did spoil too much. Only until the end anyway. Yes, we already knew what was going to happened anyway, but seeing it visually shows us how it plays out. Which is why I bash Yonny for posting too much trailers. Not that I blame him, since I'm going to see this trailer anyway. I don't know? I'm pissed off. Not because the trailer was spoilery, but all of these mixed reactions kills my hype. If this movie sucks, then I'm done with comic book movies.

Mecha finally admits that he likes whatever someone else likes.

Today is a special day.

Mecha wrote:

It's not so much the spoilers themselves, but rather how you see things play out. Yes, we already knew Doomsday and Wonder Woman were going to be in the film, so don't bother. Because that's not really the point. Besides, it's not just the spoilers. The trailer was tonely uneven and lost it's focus on the tension between Batman and Superman.

You've said that before, the whole play things out line, but you never go beyond that by actually explaining. Who said anything Wonder Woman? And no, we didn't "know" Doomsday would be in the film, it was a rumor which turned out true. Then what is the point? Because quite frankly I don't see it. How was it tone-ly uneven? How did it lose the tension between Bats and Supes?

@RamboOnRedBull

Well that explains it! Bandwagon.

In the Dark Knight we knew Harvey Dent would become Two-Face, but they never showed Two-Face in the trailer. It's not necessarily that they gave us new information in this trailer, it's that they showed it.

@RamboOnRedBull No. I'm just sick and tired of defending movies that don't turn out so well. -_- Besides, if I liked a movie just because someone else likes it, then I would hate Man of Steel.

@yonny616 Because you can pretty much put the pieces of puzzles together by guessing what scene goes where, and what is going on. For example, we all know Spider-Man is going to appear in Captain America: Civil War. But if you reveal him in future trailers, then you can guess at what point we will see him in the film. Which kinda ruins it. That's what happened with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. I didn't fucking know the characters were unaware of Wonder Woman until later on in the film. I thought Batman already knew who she was already. But the trailer ruins it for me by clearing it up. It would have been great if I was mislead and then go, Ooooh, once the film came out. Also, nope. I been told you that Doomsday was going to be in the film. Even if it was never confirmed, you shouldn't be surprised that he's in it, since there was so much rumors about him appearing. As for the trailer being uneven, it was uneven because the whole concept and appeal of the film is Batman and Superman fighting.  So you need to sell on that. But instead, the trailer was a little too jokey at parts, and focuses a lot on characters like Doomsday, Lex Luthor, and Wonder Woman. Your main focus should be Batman and Superman, not all of this other crap.

Teckno wrote:

In the Dark Knight we knew Harvey Dent would become Two-Face, but they never showed Two-Face in the trailer. It's not necessarily that they gave us new information in this trailer, it's that they showed it.

Lol what? So it is that they gave us new info in the trailer.

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@yonny616 Because you can pretty much put the pieces of puzzles together by guessing what scene goes where, and what is going on. For example, we all know Spider-Man is going to appear in Captain America: Civil War. But if you reveal him in future trailers, then you can guess at what point we will see him in the film. Which kinda ruins it. That's what happened with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. I didn't fucking know the characters were unaware of Wonder Woman until later on in the film. I thought Batman already knew who she was already. But the trailer ruins it for me by clearing it up. It would have been great if I was mislead and then go, Ooooh, once the film came out. Also, nope. I been told you that Doomsday was going to be in the film. Even if it was never confirmed, you shouldn't be surprised that he's in it, since there was so much rumors about him appearing. As for the trailer being uneven, it was uneven because the whole concept and appeal of the film is Batman and Superman fighting. So you need to sell on that. But instead, the trailer was a little too jokey at parts, and focuses a lot on characters like Doomsday, Lex Luthor, and Wonder Woman. Your main focus should be Batman and Superman, not all of this other crap.

Then stop fucking guessing. You yourself are looking for spoilers and bitching about finding them. No, it won't. On both accounts. Lol So because they ask each other if she's with them it's a spoiler? It just raises a big question...WTF is Wonder Woman doing there? Yes, you've been telling me because of a damn rumor which I didn't believe. If you don't believe something and it turns out to be true then you will be surprise. Even people expecting Doomsday were surprised (case in point: JaeRoars reaction). That's half the concept and half of the appeal. When the film was announced, and even after it's trailer, some people (casuals) were turned off on how Batman could even take on Superman. There's two scenes with jokes, both which, from YouTube reactions, most seem to enjoy. Focus on Doomsday, Lex, and Wonder Woman? Ummm did you not watch the trailer? The entire trailer is focused on Batman and Superman.

@yonny616 Stop guessing? Then I guess you should have stopped guessing when you saw all of those Amazing Spider-Man 2 trailers. You out of all people should know that the trailers for that film revealed too much. So how is the Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice trailer any different from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 trailers? Also no. You're missing the point, because you're too much in denial to see that WB revealed too much. I never said Batman and Superman not knowing who Wonder Woman was is a spoiler. That was just an example. What you failed to realize is that by keeping someone guessing and mislead about how Wonder Woman fits in, will get you even more excited to see the film. Because you want to know how it plays out. By clearing it up in the trailer, it kinda ruins it. The fact that you didn't believe the rumors about Doomsday appearing in the film only proves my point that they should have never revealed him in the trailer at all. Yet you're saying the trailer didn't spoil anything? You contradicting yourself. Who cares if some people are turned off by Batman fighting someone like Superman? They are not real fans. Any real Batman fan should know by now this film is loosely based on The Dark Knight Returns. Fucking stupid how people bitch about something that was already in the comics for decades. I have no problem with the film itself having jokes. But you got to keep the tone consistent in movie trailers. Even Marvel knows this. That's why they didn't added the scene with Ant-Man in the Captain America: Civil War trailer. You either go all out serious or funny. Captain America: Civil War trailer kept that consistency by making it serious. Even though the film is most likely going to have a lot of humor. Yes, the Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice trailer did focus on the two main heroes. But you either focus only on Batman and Superman or go all out setting up the Justice League. You can not have both. Again, consistency.

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Stop guessing? Then I guess you should have stopped guessing when you saw all of those Amazing Spider-Man 2 trailers. You out of all people should know that the trailers for that film revealed too much.

WTF are you talking about? Nikka, it was you guessing for all those trailers. I didn't even believe Gwen was going to die, even when you were all like "she's wearing this, they're fighting here, she's going to die, I solved the puzzle".

So how is the Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice trailer any different from The Amazing Spider-Man 2 trailers?

Well, it doesn't have Spider-Man characters or Spider-Man....

Also no. You're missing the point, because you're too much in denial to see that WB revealed too much. I never said Batman and Superman not knowing who Wonder Woman was is a spoiler. That was just an example. What you failed to realize is that by keeping someone guessing and mislead about how Wonder Woman fits in, will get you even more excited to see the film. Because you want to know how it plays out. By clearing it up in the trailer, it kinda ruins it.

First - Why do you always say that? "HURR DURR DENIEL". Second - Yes, yes you did:

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I didn't fucking know the characters were unaware of Wonder Woman until later on in the film.

And third - We still don't know where Wonder Woman fits with the actual story.

The fact that you didn't believe the rumors about Doomsday appearing in the film only proves my point that they should have never revealed him in the trailer at all. Yet you're saying the trailer didn't spoil anything? You contradicting yourself.

How does this prove your point? Doomsday was going to be revealed anyway. Whether they showed him in a trailer, was leaked, or from the damn toys. So no, Doomsday wasn't a spoiler.

Who cares if some people are turned off by Batman fighting someone like Superman? They are not real fans. Any real Batman fan should know by now this film is loosely based on The Dark Knight Returns. Fucking stupid how people bitch about something that was already in the comics for decades.

Who cares? WB cares. Want to know why? Because those "not real fans" are what will make or break this film's billion dollar goal.

I have no problem with the film itself having jokes. But you got to keep the tone consistent in movie trailers. Even Marvel knows this. That's why they didn't added the scene with Ant-Man in the Captain America: Civil War trailer. You either go all out serious or funny. Captain America: Civil War trailer kept that consistency by making it serious. Even though the film is most likely going to have a lot of humor.

Except the D23 trailer did have that scene, but I digress. Well, Marvel can afford to look serious. People moaned about how serious the last two BvS trailer were, now they show some humor and its tone is uneven? What?

Yes, the Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice trailer did focus on the two main heroes. But you either focus only on Batman and Superman or go all out setting up the Justice League. You can not have both. Again, consistency.

And they did only focus on Bats and Supes. They highlighted Lex, Wonder Woman, and Doomsday, but that trailer was all Bats and Supes.

@Mecha

It was a joke. Lighten up.

You know what, maybe Yonny was right. When the trailer appeared before The Force Awakens started, people seemed to really responded to this trailer. Whether they loved it or hated it, it got people talking. Like once Wonder Woman showed up, some people even started cheering. I may not like the trailer, but it did captured people's interest.

They showed that trailer again in the theater, along with the Civil War trailer, X-Men: Apocalypse, and a few others. Honestly, that trailer was the worst one shown out of them. It literally spoiled most of the movie for me.

Looks like Doomsday isn't the final villain they fight after all. Still though, they are making him a throwaway villain. I mean, I never thought Doomsday was the kinda villain that can carry a movie, but he deserves a little more. Oh well. People who don't read comics aren't going to care, since they will just see Doomsday as some giant monster for Batman and Superman to fight anyway.