PSN's welcome back service

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/116/1165399p1.html

30 days of PSN+ for free? I'm in!

Me too.

In the end... was it really that bad?

Do you get to keep discounted games you buy?

BlackStigma wrote:

Do you get to keep discounted games you buy?

Yes. The only stuff you don't actually "keep" is the stuff that's free.

I think giving people free PS+ is a good way to sucker, I mean, attract them towards the service.

I want a free downloadable game of choice.

Padders wrote:

I want a free downloadable game of choice.

I'd just download Mass Effect 2.

TRF wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Do you get to keep discounted games you buy?

Yes. The only stuff you don't actually "keep" is the stuff that's free.

I think giving people free PS+ is a good way to sucker, I mean, attract them towards the service.

Yeah I noticed that Sony is taking advantage of the situation. I was just wondering about that bit because that would be pretty sleezy. Although I do understand why you can't play your free games once the sub is up. This is cool though I was planning on buying FFIX anyways, I can beat it in a month. It's not like I would have played the PS3 during the time PSN was down.

BlackStigma wrote:

TRF wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Do you get to keep discounted games you buy?

Yes. The only stuff you don't actually "keep" is the stuff that's free.

I think giving people free PS+ is a good way to sucker, I mean, attract them towards the service.

Yeah I noticed that Sony is taking advantage of the situation. I was just wondering about that bit because that would be pretty sleezy. Although I do understand why you can't play your free games once the sub is up. This is cool though I was planning on buying FFIX anyways, I can beat it in a month. It's not like I would have played the PS3 during the time PSN was down.

Tumbs up to that one. FFIX is my personal favourite.

So the free games you get from PS+ only reminds free as long you keep paying...

Padders wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

TRF wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Do you get to keep discounted games you buy?

Yes. The only stuff you don't actually "keep" is the stuff that's free.

I think giving people free PS+ is a good way to sucker, I mean, attract them towards the service.

Yeah I noticed that Sony is taking advantage of the situation. I was just wondering about that bit because that would be pretty sleezy. Although I do understand why you can't play your free games once the sub is up. This is cool though I was planning on buying FFIX anyways, I can beat it in a month. It's not like I would have played the PS3 during the time PSN was down.

Tumbs up to that one. FFIX is my personal favourite.

So the free games you get from PS+ only reminds free as long you keep paying...

Yeah. So basically Sony isn't even giving you a free game, its a 30 day demo.

ghost23 wrote:

Padders wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

TRF wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Do you get to keep discounted games you buy?

Yes. The only stuff you don't actually "keep" is the stuff that's free.

I think giving people free PS+ is a good way to sucker, I mean, attract them towards the service.

Yeah I noticed that Sony is taking advantage of the situation. I was just wondering about that bit because that would be pretty sleezy. Although I do understand why you can't play your free games once the sub is up. This is cool though I was planning on buying FFIX anyways, I can beat it in a month. It's not like I would have played the PS3 during the time PSN was down.

Tumbs up to that one. FFIX is my personal favourite.

So the free games you get from PS+ only reminds free as long you keep paying...

Yeah. So basically Sony isn't even giving you a free game, its a 30 day demo.

No it's a 30 day rental service

ghost23 wrote:

Padders wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

TRF wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Do you get to keep discounted games you buy?

Yes. The only stuff you don't actually "keep" is the stuff that's free.

I think giving people free PS+ is a good way to sucker, I mean, attract them towards the service.

Yeah I noticed that Sony is taking advantage of the situation. I was just wondering about that bit because that would be pretty sleezy. Although I do understand why you can't play your free games once the sub is up. This is cool though I was planning on buying FFIX anyways, I can beat it in a month. It's not like I would have played the PS3 during the time PSN was down.

Tumbs up to that one. FFIX is my personal favourite.

So the free games you get from PS+ only reminds free as long you keep paying...

Yeah. So basically Sony isn't even giving you a free game, its a 30 day demo.

''Apart from the 30 day subscription, Sony will be handing out free downloadable PSN games to users and giving a free Qriocity subscription." Reading, my good sir. Also, ''CC info was a low possibility, since it was stored in a different part of the database and not likely read."

Also, anyone catch that bit about Sony offering to pay for CC replacements to affected users?

This is why you hadn't heard from Sony until recently: ''It took them until the 27th of April to confirm that data was compromised. They had been working with 3 different analysis entities starting from the 20th."

''Hirai said that no improper CC usage has been reported and they have no evidence of CC info being compromised. They said that Sony will pay for CC reissuing and assist with monitoring/insurance programs for customers. If there are any improper charges, they will be handled on a case-by-case basis."

''PSN compensation and CC-type compensation are being considered separately. Sony says they will cover credit card reissuing fees and will assist with credit monitoring/insurance programs."

- Kaz said that PSN will be online "within a week." Going to be incrementally bringing services back online. Different regions may see services at different times.

- All PSN users will get one free month of PSN+ (current PSN+ subscribers will also get 30 free days), Qrocity subscribers will get a free month, and there will be some titles available for free download. Will differ based on region and their plans are not finalized as of yet.

- All services to be back online within a month.

- As far as cost to Sony, they weren't sure and it'd vary by region, but $15-$20 for PSN+ and a few thousand yen for the titles.

- Moving the data center from San Diego to a more secure location and adding new detection measures, firewalls, and encryption to make data more secure. Creating a new job position to monitor security. These things have already been done to an extent, but they wouldn't comment specifically out of security considerations.

- Sony is going to have a way for users to look at purchase history online (I think before PSN is actually up) to check for any abnormalities.

- Sony will allow users to leave PSN. They are looking into ways to refund any balances on PSN or PSN+ fees if those exist for the user. There was one conflicting answer about this, but I'm pretty sure they're working on a system to allow users to leave and erase their info if they desire.

- Firmware will need to be updated as soon as PSN is back up and users will need to change their password. Passwords can only be changed on the PS3 system the account was created or via a verified email address. That seemed like a super important point, but it was only mentioned once. However, that means people don't have to worry about a mad dash to change their password before a hacker does. As far as users changing a password from "A" to "B" and then back to "A," they'll alert users if they're doing something like that, or if it's close to their username or something.

- Your passwords were hashed. This means that the hackers would have to go through A TON of shit that would take A SHITLOAD OF TIME to even acquire one of your PSN passwords. By then, PSN will be up and your password changed.

- HOLY SHIT THEY APOLOGIZED

/Kaz Hirai keynotes at the conference



Fuck, get off of the Sony hatemachine. All the people saying ''omgawd but dey has ur info." I can find out where you fucking live just by catching your first name, as I already did with Cerna Also, don't give me that CC crap. Your CC info was all encrypted. The hackers would have to go through a ton of legal shit that would end with them behind a cell.

Sonji wrote:

ghost23 wrote:

Padders wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

TRF wrote:

BlackStigma wrote:

Do you get to keep discounted games you buy?

Yes. The only stuff you don't actually "keep" is the stuff that's free.

I think giving people free PS+ is a good way to sucker, I mean, attract them towards the service.

Yeah I noticed that Sony is taking advantage of the situation. I was just wondering about that bit because that would be pretty sleezy. Although I do understand why you can't play your free games once the sub is up. This is cool though I was planning on buying FFIX anyways, I can beat it in a month. It's not like I would have played the PS3 during the time PSN was down.

Tumbs up to that one. FFIX is my personal favourite.

So the free games you get from PS+ only reminds free as long you keep paying...

Yeah. So basically Sony isn't even giving you a free game, its a 30 day demo.

''Apart from the 30 day subscription, Sony will be handing out free downloadable PSN games to users and giving a free Qriocity subscription." Reading, my good sir. Also, ''CC info was a low possibility, since it was stored in a different part of the database and not likely read."

Also, anyone catch that bit about Sony offering to pay for CC replacements to affected users?

This is why you hadn't heard from Sony until recently: ''It took them until the 27th of April to confirm that data was compromised. They had been working with 3 different analysis entities starting from the 20th."

''Hirai said that no improper CC usage has been reported and they have no evidence of CC info being compromised. They said that Sony will pay for CC reissuing and assist with monitoring/insurance programs for customers. If there are any improper charges, they will be handled on a case-by-case basis."

''PSN compensation and CC-type compensation are being considered separately. Sony says they will cover credit card reissuing fees and will assist with credit monitoring/insurance programs."

- Kaz said that PSN will be online "within a week." Going to be incrementally bringing services back online. Different regions may see services at different times.

- All PSN users will get one free month of PSN+ (current PSN+ subscribers will also get 30 free days), Qrocity subscribers will get a free month, and there will be some titles available for free download. Will differ based on region and their plans are not finalized as of yet.

- All services to be back online within a month.

- As far as cost to Sony, they weren't sure and it'd vary by region, but $15-$20 for PSN+ and a few thousand yen for the titles.

- Moving the data center from San Diego to a more secure location and adding new detection measures, firewalls, and encryption to make data more secure. Creating a new job position to monitor security. These things have already been done to an extent, but they wouldn't comment specifically out of security considerations.

- Sony is going to have a way for users to look at purchase history online (I think before PSN is actually up) to check for any abnormalities.

- Sony will allow users to leave PSN. They are looking into ways to refund any balances on PSN or PSN+ fees if those exist for the user. There was one conflicting answer about this, but I'm pretty sure they're working on a system to allow users to leave and erase their info if they desire.

- Firmware will need to be updated as soon as PSN is back up and users will need to change their password. Passwords can only be changed on the PS3 system the account was created or via a verified email address. That seemed like a super important point, but it was only mentioned once. However, that means people don't have to worry about a mad dash to change their password before a hacker does. As far as users changing a password from "A" to "B" and then back to "A," they'll alert users if they're doing something like that, or if it's close to their username or something.

- Your passwords were hashed. This means that the hackers would have to go through A TON of shit that would take A SHITLOAD OF TIME to even acquire one of your PSN passwords. By then, PSN will be up and your password changed.

- HOLY SHIT THEY APOLOGIZED

/Kaz Hirai keynotes at the conference



Fuck, get off of the Sony hatemachine. All the people saying ''omgawd but dey has ur info." I can find out where you fucking live just by catching your first name, as I already did with Cerna Also, don't give me that CC crap. Your CC info was all encrypted. The hackers would have to go through a ton of legal shit that would end with them behind a cell.

GO SONJI! :cheers:

Sonji defending sony. Why am i not surprised?

Toxicmaniac wrote:

Sonji defending sony. Why am i not surprised?

Not defending Sony. I gave a rundown of what he said at the Press Conference for those of you who weren't up at 1.AM watching it.

Sounds great to me.

Good for PS3 users. 'Bout damn time it's back up.

I...FUCKING....CALLED IT.


Errr, I would have liked XGC better since PS+ is practically a rental service unless you buy shit.

Toxicmaniac wrote:

Sonji defending sony. Why am i not surprised?

As incompetent as Sony was during this whole thing, they did receive a lot of shit for things that couldn't happen, like credit card info being stolen.