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 Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft

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PostSubject: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 02, 2011 4:11 pm

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"Piracy is not theft, If you steal a car, the original is lost. If you copy a game, there are simply more of them in the world. There is no such thing as a 'lost sale'. Is a bad review a lost sale? What about a missed ship date?"
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 02, 2011 4:23 pm

He has a good point.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 02, 2011 5:26 pm

doesn't mean piracy don't affect sales
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 02, 2011 6:15 pm

its funny. i pirated minecraft first... then a week later i brought it
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 02, 2011 7:00 pm

Well, he is right. It isn't theft. Is it wrong? Subjective, but it's not theft.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeWed Mar 02, 2011 11:26 pm

Well I don't know what to compare it to. Cloning a TV then taking it? Theft is probably the closest comparison we can make.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 2:17 am

I have a cloning ray gun. If I shoot it at something, it makes a copy right next to it.

My friend has Red Dead and I clone it using my magic ray gun. He payed 60 bucks while I payed nothing for my new copy.

Yeah. I'm not a thief. eye roll
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 5:40 am

Fuck off. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 12:47 pm

TRF wrote:
Well I don't know what to compare it to. Cloning a TV then taking it? Theft is probably the closest comparison we can make.
You could always just call it piracy, lol. Pirating =/= stealing. It has its own unique definition.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 3:50 pm

Stoney wrote:
Fuck off. lol

Notch makes several good points.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 4:00 pm

Well, not that everyone has the OK to pirate MinceCraft, I'm sure he wouldn't mind...
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 4:34 pm

Teckno wrote:
Well, not that everyone has the OK to pirate MinceCraft, I'm sure he wouldn't mind...
well if you pirate Minecraft and get it to work. your just stuck with Single player without Auto updating
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 6:34 pm

Franko wrote:
its funny. i pirated minecraft first... then a week later i brought it

Same. I thought "this game cannot be this great" so I pirated and bought it a week or two later.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 03, 2011 11:36 pm

His logic is very flawed. You can't compare a physical item to software when it comes to theft.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 04, 2011 12:30 am

BlackStigma wrote:
His logic is very flawed. You can't compare a physical item to software when it comes to theft.

I agree. Take two objects, 1 physical and 1 abstract.

With the physical object, 1=1, meaning that you are only stealing 1 since building another technically makes it legally yours.

With the abstract object (software), 1=1+X, meaning that because you can make endless copies it does cost the company a potential sale(s). The pirate still retains the original while any number of other people could have a copy and they can make even more.

Also correct me if I am wrong, but aren't review copies given at the discretion of the company who made the game?
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 04, 2011 1:41 am

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BlackStigma wrote:
His logic is very flawed. You can't compare a physical item to software when it comes to theft.

I agree. Take two objects, 1 physical and 1 abstract.

With the physical object, 1=1, meaning that you are only stealing 1 since building another technically makes it legally yours.

With the abstract object (software), 1=1+X, meaning that because you can make endless copies it does cost the company a potential sale(s). The pirate still retains the original while any number of other people could have a copy and they can make even more.

Also correct me if I am wrong, but aren't review copies given at the discretion of the company who made the game?

QFT.

Also /thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft   Minecraft Dev: Piracy is not theft I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 04, 2011 1:45 pm

Who the fuck releases a game and holds back reviews? That's terrible rep for a company.
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