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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:14 am

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Bully is only unique in its setting. Other than that, it's pretty bland and generic. Also lol @ "GTA3 ripped off Driver" . . . just lol.

Whether it was ripped off or not is irrelevant. Driver came first. It did pretty much what gta did first. I'm sure rockstar took some notes from Driver.

And well, not really just the setting. The combat has been done before, yes, but the setting ALTERS the gameplay and offers gameplay possibilities that would be out of place in other games. Like sticking kick-me signs on people, flushing peoples heads down the toilet, shoving people into lockers, using slingshots, driving go-karts, going to or skipping lessons, avoiding teachers and prefects or getting on their bad side, pranking people and stuff... the setting has not really been done before and as a result the gameplay feels fresh (Kenka Bancho exists, sure, but that was just a beat-em-up game with school kids as characters and the actual school and setting doesn't affect the gameplay really).

Bland and generic? Really? Oh do give examples, and don't pull that Hulk stuff on me again where you say "actors, cinematography, narrative" or whatever. You need more than examples or points but also REASONS.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:25 am

Typical Lykos thread...

My personal favourites are GTA: Vice City & Red Dead Redemption, but you are entitled to disagree with me and I won't force my opinion down your throat.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:59 am

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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:20 am

I don't know how it works in the UK, but Bully is a kids game here in the US. Evey time one of my friends plays the game we laugh. So we gave away Bully to a kindergarten school for the children to play, and got Red Dead instead. My friend finally became a man that day.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:42 pm

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TheCinemaJack wrote:
Bully is only unique in its setting. Other than that, it's pretty bland and generic. Also lol @ "GTA3 ripped off Driver" . . . just lol.

Whether it was ripped off or not is irrelevant. Driver came first. It did pretty much what gta did first. I'm sure rockstar took some notes from Driver.

And well, not really just the setting. The combat has been done before, yes, but the setting ALTERS the gameplay and offers gameplay possibilities that would be out of place in other games. Like sticking kick-me signs on people, flushing peoples heads down the toilet, shoving people into lockers, using slingshots, driving go-karts, going to or skipping lessons, avoiding teachers and prefects or getting on their bad side, pranking people and stuff... the setting has not really been done before and as a result the gameplay feels fresh (Kenka Bancho exists, sure, but that was just a beat-em-up game with school kids as characters and the actual school and setting doesn't affect the gameplay really).

Bland and generic? Really? Oh do give examples, and don't pull that Hulk stuff on me again where you say "actors, cinematography, narrative" or whatever. You need more than examples or points but also REASONS.
lol. Kick-me signs? Flushing heads down toilets? Shoving people into lockers? That constitutes new gameplay to you?


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:17 pm

^^

Might as well say that the paramedic missions and cop missions in GTA were INNOVATIVES.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:35 pm

yo gaiz dat new assassins creed with the chick assassin is innvativ gamplay cuz ur changin tampons all da tiem


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:02 pm

TheCinemaJack wrote:
Lykos wrote:
TheCinemaJack wrote:
Bully is only unique in its setting. Other than that, it's pretty bland and generic. Also lol @ "GTA3 ripped off Driver" . . . just lol.

Whether it was ripped off or not is irrelevant. Driver came first. It did pretty much what gta did first. I'm sure rockstar took some notes from Driver.

And well, not really just the setting. The combat has been done before, yes, but the setting ALTERS the gameplay and offers gameplay possibilities that would be out of place in other games. Like sticking kick-me signs on people, flushing peoples heads down the toilet, shoving people into lockers, using slingshots, driving go-karts, going to or skipping lessons, avoiding teachers and prefects or getting on their bad side, pranking people and stuff... the setting has not really been done before and as a result the gameplay feels fresh (Kenka Bancho exists, sure, but that was just a beat-em-up game with school kids as characters and the actual school and setting doesn't affect the gameplay really).

Bland and generic? Really? Oh do give examples, and don't pull that Hulk stuff on me again where you say "actors, cinematography, narrative" or whatever. You need more than examples or points but also REASONS.
lol. Kick-me signs? Flushing heads down toilets? Shoving people into lockers? That constitutes new gameplay to you?

If theres not been a single game to do that before then yes, its new.
I gave only a few examples but the game is full of varied interaction and freedoms that gta fails to offer. The only reason someone would not find the game fun is if they were victims of this kind of bullying themselves.
Anyone that has completed it will tell you it's a great game. But if blood, shallow gameplay, guns and cars mean so much to you that youll ignore amazing gameplay then by all means continue to assume Bully isn't a great game and play your mediocre gta.


Also about 40 critics gave it 9/10 and above. Try telling me it's a bad game.
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The best games -- games like Bully -- don't concern themselves with technical perfection. They just push headlong into new places and new ideas, leaving behind the ranks of unimaginative, spit-polished safe bets. Bully takes chances, and the gamble pays off big.

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Years from now, Bully will stand up on any 'best of PS2 list', Jimmy Hopkins will still reign as the coolest kid in school

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The key to enjoying the game really is getting the hang of how the game works and then getting those beefier missions rolling. Bully truly is one of the better games to come out of Rockstar in quite awhile.

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If there is anything that can be learned from Bully, it is how a good RPG should be designed. It captures an atmosphere, gives you characters you can approach with some emotion


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Rockstar has created one of the most original and fun titles on the PlayStation 2.

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Bully is a masterpiece in all aspects of the word and in my book, fully worth of at least one sequel.

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A more focused game than the GTA series and you're more likely to plough ahead and actually get somewhere with the story. Those of you who found the scale of San Andreas a little bewildering and ultimately off-putting will find a challenge here more to your liking.

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One of those rare treats that ignores the hype to bring us a truly entertaining adventure game that immerses players into its detailed world. It is a fresh and inventive game that, much like its main protagonist, is outright charming.

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Official U.S. Playstation Magazine
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It takes that same GTA structure but gives it a fresh setting and story that's focused to a much more manageable size

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With a compelling story, unique approach, and strong gameplay you can't go wrong with Bully.

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Bully's a fresh breath of air in a stagnating game market -- complete with cool art direction, a great soundtrack, a tongue-in-cheek sense of humor and a gameplay mechanic that's new

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Coming off of a long session of playing Bully, you could easily feel like that time was spent with a GTA title. But whereas the countless knockoffs have simply tried to recreate that experience, Bully has taken the genre and used it in a completely different mold; it's this extremely fresh take on things that makes it so much fun.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:27 pm

If we're going based on reviews, then every mainstream bloody and generic GTA game since Grand Theft Auto III is leaps better than Bully.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:29 pm

Oh lawd. The ignorance.

Look at the red marked bits
(though I did include some positive reviews because they enforce my point that the game is in fact fucking amazing).


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:45 pm

So? The red bits are just proof that there are more idiots like you out in the world.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:47 pm

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So? The red bits are just proof that there are more idiots like you out in the world.



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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:55 pm

Cracked me up !
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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:38 pm

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Also about 40 critics gave it 9/10 and above. Try telling me it's a bad game.
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The best games -- games like Bully -- don't concern themselves with technical perfection. They just push headlong into new places and new ideas, leaving behind the ranks of unimaginative, spit-polished safe bets. Bully takes chances, and the gamble pays off big.

Quote :
Years from now, Bully will stand up on any 'best of PS2 list', Jimmy Hopkins will still reign as the coolest kid in school

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The key to enjoying the game really is getting the hang of how the game works and then getting those beefier missions rolling. Bully truly is one of the better games to come out of Rockstar in quite awhile.

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If there is anything that can be learned from Bully, it is how a good RPG should be designed. It captures an atmosphere, gives you characters you can approach with some emotion


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Rockstar has created one of the most original and fun titles on the PlayStation 2.

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Bully is a masterpiece in all aspects of the word and in my book, fully worth of at least one sequel.

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A more focused game than the GTA series and you're more likely to plough ahead and actually get somewhere with the story. Those of you who found the scale of San Andreas a little bewildering and ultimately off-putting will find a challenge here more to your liking.

Quote :
One of those rare treats that ignores the hype to bring us a truly entertaining adventure game that immerses players into its detailed world. It is a fresh and inventive game that, much like its main protagonist, is outright charming.

Quote :

Official U.S. Playstation Magazine
90
It takes that same GTA structure but gives it a fresh setting and story that's focused to a much more manageable size

Quote :
With a compelling story, unique approach, and strong gameplay you can't go wrong with Bully.

Quote :
Bully's a fresh breath of air in a stagnating game market -- complete with cool art direction, a great soundtrack, a tongue-in-cheek sense of humor and a gameplay mechanic that's new

Quote :
Coming off of a long session of playing Bully, you could easily feel like that time was spent with a GTA title. But whereas the countless knockoffs have simply tried to recreate that experience, Bully has taken the genre and used it in a completely different mold; it's this extremely fresh take on things that makes it so much fun.

Uncharted 2 got like 40 perfect scores. Best game of this generation amirite?

You can't even count how many critics called Uncharted 2 a masterpiece and an innovative creation.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:55 am

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CCP has a vagina and also likes Bully. We can conclude that Bully is a casual game. Case dismissed.

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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:06 am

Uncharted was somewhat innovative as a whole.....like its like a tomb raider or Indiana jones game but it plays differently. Problem was it was a pile of dog shit.
So yeah critics we're half right.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:34 am

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CCP has a vagina and also likes Bully. We can conclude that Bully is a casual game. Case dismissed.

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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:45 am

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Uncharted was somewhat innovative as a whole.....like its like a tomb raider or Indiana jones game but it plays differently. Problem was it was a pile of dog shit.
So yeah critics we're half right.

Same can be said about Bully, no?


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:36 am

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Uncharted was somewhat innovative as a whole.....like its like a tomb raider or Indiana jones game but it plays differently. Problem was it was a pile of dog shit.
So yeah critics we're half right.

Same can be said about Bully, no?

Well Uncharted is a stupid example because it's entirely unrelated.

Bully is more innovative than GTA, despite what people here claim. I gave multiple examples where critics have called Bully unique and a breath of fresh air whereas you'd be hard pressed to find any that say the same for GTA, which is exactly the point right now.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:47 am

^^

I used Uncharted because I know that you do not like the game, then go ahead to use reviews as "proof" that Bully is a good game.

"Most critics gave the game a 9/10. Try telling me it's a bad game."


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:26 pm

Lykos is pulling an MLD.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:46 pm

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^^

I used Uncharted because I know that you do not like the game, then go ahead to use reviews as "proof" that Bully is a good game.

"Most critics gave the game a 9/10. Try telling me it's a bad game."

Yes but Uncharted being shit is my opinion entirely. I can dislike a game even though it has received good ratings, the difference is I make my argument with reasoning.

I gave reasoning as to why Bully is a good game and claimed it is unique. People denied it, so I used reviews to show that I am not the only one who realized it.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:03 pm

Us thinking it is shit is our opinion entirely. I can show reviews to show that we are not the only ones who think Uncharted 2 is awesome.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:20 pm

Indeed but whether it's unique or innovative isn't so much opinion, but more a general fact.

Edit: Before you deny it, the concept and gameplay style hasn't been done before, therefore it's new and innovative. Several people in this thread have already denied it being unique but no one's given a single example of a game similar to it.


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PostSubject: Re: Bully is Rockstar's best game   Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:35 pm

^^

Have there been games before GTA that allowed you to step into the role of a criminal, steal an ambulance, and proceed to rescue injured civilians or step into a fire truck and put out a fire?

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